1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team

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1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball
Georgetown Hoyas logo.svg
ConferenceIndependent
1908–09 record9–5
Head coach
  • Maurice Joyce (2nd season)
CaptainFred Rice (1st year)
Home arena
Seasons
1908–09 IAAUS men's basketball independents standings
Conf Overall
Team W   L   PCT W   L   PCT
Illinois State   9 0   1.000
New York University   12 0   1.000
Ohio State   11 1   .917
Oregon State   10 1   .909
Duke   8 1   .889
Montana State   8 1   .889
Dayton   12 2   .857
Wake Forest   6 1   .857
Allegheny   11 2   .846
Washington   5 1   .833
Notre Dame   33 7   .825
Army   9 2   .818
Rhode Island   7 2   .778
Pennsylvania   19 6   .760
Bucknell   9 3   .750
Georgia   6 2   .750
Wabash   9 3   .750
North Dakota State   11 4   .733
Vanderbilt   11 4   .733
Navy   8 3   .727
Temple   8 3   .727
Butler   5 2   .714
Seton Hall   10 4   .714
Maine   7 3   .700
William & Mary   7 3   .700
Dartmouth   11 5   .688
Kansas State   6 3   .667
Michigan State   10 5   .667
Virginia   6 3   .667
Virginia Tech   4 2   .667
Georgetown   9 5   .643
Brigham Young   7 4   .636
Washington State   10 6   .625
Cincinnati   6 4   .600
St. John's (NY)   9 6   .600
Auburn   4 3   .571
Colorado   4 3   .571
Cornell   13 10   .565
Kentucky   5 4   .556
Colgate   7 6   .538
Penn State   7 6   .538
Fordham   13 12   .520
Arizona   1 1   .500
Lehigh   5 5   .500
Mississippi State   5 5   .500
Ohio   1 1   .500
Oklahoma   3 3   .500
Wyoming   3 3   .500
Yale   9 9   .500
Syracuse   7 8   .467
Bradley   6 7   .462
Canisius   3 4   .429
Idaho   7 10   .412
Mount Union   7 11   .389
Princeton   8 13   .381
Brown   5 10   .333
Holy Cross   4 8   .333
Oklahoma State   1 2   .333
Manhattan   4 10   .286
Tennessee   2 5   .286
Utah   3 8   .273
Indiana State   2 7   .222
Niagara   2 7   .222
Ole Miss   1 4   .200
Utah State   1 8   .111
South Carolina   0 3   .000
Rankings from AP Poll

The 1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team represented Georgetown University during the 1908–09 Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States college basketball season. Maurice Joyce coached the team in his second season as head coach.[1] Georgetown was an independent and – after its home opener at the at 5th and K Streets NW in downtown Washington, D.C., where it had played home games the previous season – played its home games at the at 8th and D Streets NW in downtown Washington.[2] The team finished the season with a record of 9-5.

Season recap[]

Freshman forward-center Frank Schlosser joined the team this season and played in all 14 games, immediately establishing himself as a scoring mainstay. He led the team in scoring, as he would in all four years of his career; this season he scored 128 points, averaging 9.1 points per game.[3]

Georgetown University Law School student and forward Fred Rice was in his second season with the Hoyas. He started all 14 games the Hoyas played, scoring 34 field goals and shooting 42-for-75 (56.0%) from the free-throw line for a total of 110 points and a 7.9 points per game. He finished second only to Schlosser in scoring for the year.[3]

The team's nine wins this season included victories over basketball powers Virginia, Navy, and Penn State.

Roster[]

Sources[4][5]

Georgetown players did not wear numbers on their jerseys this season. The first numbered jerseys in Georgetown men's basketball history would not appear until the 1933-34 season.[6]

Forward James Colliflower, a Georgetown University Law School student and three-season letterman in his second of three years playing with the team, would later serve as Georgetown's head coach during the 1911-12, 1912-13, 1913-14, and 1921-22 seasons.[1]

Name Height Weight (lbs.) Position Class Hometown Previous Team(s)
George Colliflower N/A N/A F Grad. Stud. Washington, DC, U.S. Georgetown Preparatory School
(North Bethesda, MD)
James Colliflower N/A N/A F Grad. Stud. Washington, DC, U.S. Georgetown Preparatory School
(North Bethesda, MD)
Richard Downey N/A N/A C Grad. Stud. N/A N/A
George Goggin N/A N/A G Jr. N/A N/A
George Keliher N/A N/A F Jr. Washington, DC, U.S. United States Army
Richard Kingsley N/A N/A G N/A Washington, DC, U.S. Georgetown Preparatory School
(North Bethesda, MD)
Fred Rice N/A N/A C Grad. Stud. Washington, DC, U.S. George Washington University
Frank Schlosser N/A N/A C Fr. Washington, DC, U.S. United States Army
Billy Sitterding N/A N/A G Fr. Richmond, VA, U.S. N/A
The 1908–1909 team photo.

1908–09 schedule and results[]

Sources[7][8][9][10]

It was common practice at this time for colleges and universities to include non-collegiate opponents in their schedules, with the games recognized as part of their official record for the season, and the games against the Washington YMCA all counted as part of Georgetown's won-loss record for 1908-09. It was not until 1952, after the completion of the 1951-52 season, that the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) ruled that colleges and universities could no longer count games played against non-collegiate opponents in their annual won-loss records.[11]

Georgetown met Navy for the first time this season, playing the Midshipmen three times and winning two of the games. It was the last success Georgetown would have against Navy until 1928; the Hoyas would lose 15 straight games to the Midshipmen in the interim.[12]

Date
time, TV
Opponent Result Record Site
city, state
Regular Season
Thu., Dec. 17, 1908
no, no
Penn State W 49–22  1-0
 
Washington, DC
Sat., Dec. 19, 1908
no, no
at Navy L 32–33  1-1
Dahlgren Hall 
Annapolis, MD
Sat., Dec. 26, 1908
no, no
at Washington YMCA L 22–37  1-2
 
Washington, DC
Mon., Dec. 28, 1908
no, no
Columbia cancelled  
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 2, 1909
no, no
at Navy W 26–24  2-2
Dahlgren Hall 
Annapolis, MD
Mon., Jan. 4, 1909
no, no
Vanderbilt cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 9, 1909
no, no
Fordham cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 9, 1909
no, no
at Washington YMCA W 28–21  3-2
YMCA Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 16, 1909
no, no
Swarthmore cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 23, 1909
no, no
at Navy W 26–23  4-2
Dahlgren Hall 
Annapolis, MD
Wed., Jan. 27, 1909
no, no
at Washington YMCA L 23–33  4-3
YMCA Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 30, 1909
no, no
at Virginia W 35–24  5-3
 
Charlottesville, VA
Wed., Feb. 3, 1909
no, no
at Columbia L 10–23  5-4
 
New York, NY
Sat., Feb. 6, 1909
no, no
Washington and Lee W 60–15  6-4
Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Feb. 13, 1909
no, no
at Loyola W 62–25  7-4
 
Baltimore, MD
Mon., Feb. 22, 1909
no, no
Fordham W 27–19  8-4
Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Fri., Feb. 26, 1909
no, no
at Cornell L 21–22  8-5
N/A 
Ithaca, NY
Sat., Feb. 27, 1909
no, no
Virginia W 36–19  9-5
Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
*Non-conference game. (#) Tournament seedings in parentheses.

References[]

  1. ^ a b "Georgetown Basketball History Project: Head Coaches". 2017-05-27. Archived from the original on 2017-05-27. Retrieved 2018-03-19.
  2. ^ The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Home Courts
  3. ^ a b "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: The Top 100: 56. Frank Schlosser". Archived from the original on 2015-03-29. Retrieved 2014-02-23.
  4. ^ Georgetown Basketball History Project: All-Time Player Directory[permanent dead link]
  5. ^ "Georgetown Basketball History Project: Team Rosters". 2017-02-12. Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2018-03-19.
  6. ^ "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Rosters 1930-31 to 1939-1940". Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
  7. ^ Georgetown Basketball History Project: 1900s Records
  8. ^ The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Records vs. All Opponents
  9. ^ sports-reference.com 1908-09 Georgetown Hoyas Schedule and Results
  10. ^ 2012-2013 Georgetown Men's Basketball Media Guide, p. 58.
  11. ^ "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Non-Collegiate Opponents". Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
  12. ^ "The Georgetown Basketball History Project: Records vs. Opponents: N". Archived from the original on 2017-02-12. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
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